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The NPR Politics Podcast

What Bove's Nomination Says About Trump's Future Judge Picks

The NPR Politics Podcast

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Politics, Daily News, News

4.524.9K Ratings

🗓️ 23 July 2025

⏱️ 16 minutes

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Summary

Emil Bove has been behind many of the Justice Department's most controversial recent decisions, and now he's President Trump's nominee to the 3rd Circuit Court of Appeals. We discuss the controversy around Bove's nomination and what it could mean for future judicial appointments.

This episode: political correspondent Sarah McCammon, justice correspondent Carrie Johnson, and senior national political correspondent Mara Liasson.

This podcast was produced by Bria Suggs and edited by Rachel Baye. Our executive producer is Muthoni Muturi.

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0:00.0

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0:07.1

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0:22.3

This podcast is recorded at.

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11. P.m. Eastern Time on Wednesday, July 23rd, 2025.

0:30.1

Things may have changed by the time you hear this, but hopefully I will be sleeping.

0:34.9

Okay. Here is the show.

0:40.6

That's my favorite time stamp of all time. It's a good one. It's just great. It has everything

0:47.0

NPR cares about. Real life, sound. Oh, yeah. Unexpected. Sweet exhausting moments. Hey there, it's the NPR Politics Podcast. I'm Sarah McCammon. I cover politics. I'm Carrie Johnson. I cover the Justice Department. And I'm Mara Liason, senior national political correspondent. Today on the show, we're talking about President Trump's controversial nominee to join the Third Circuit Court of Appeals

1:11.2

and what it could mean about the future of judicial appointees. Carrie, you've been covering

1:15.6

this story. Let's just start there. Who is Amel Bovey? And why is he controversial?

1:20.9

You know, this is a guy who has really strong legal credentials. He graduated from Georgetown Law School. He

1:26.2

clerked for a couple of really solid federal judges. And then he was a

1:31.9

prosecutor, a federal prosecutor in Manhattan for many years. But most people might remember him because he

1:38.2

helped defend Donald Trump in several criminal cases. Trump was involved in over the last few years.

1:45.1

Since January, he's been inside the Justice Department, basically the right-hand man to the deputy attorney general.

1:51.0

And he's been involved in a lot of controversies in that job.

1:55.5

Yeah, what can you tell us about those controversies?

1:57.8

Critics think that Bovi has proven himself to be very loyal to Donald Trump

2:02.6

inside the DOJ this year. Remember, the DOJ has fired prosecutors who brought to justice,

2:09.7

many of the people who rioted and stormed the Capitol on January 6, 2021. Bovi also was involved

2:16.5

in dismissing the Eric Adams case, that corruption case against

2:20.9

New York City Mayor Eric Adams that caused so many career prosecutors to resign. And more recently,

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