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What are the options for a Covid Christmas?

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🗓️ 3 December 2020

⏱️ 21 minutes

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Summary

This week the UK approved its first coronavirus vaccine for widespread use. With the end now clearly in sight, does the government's current plan for a relaxation of restrictions over Christmas still make sense?


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Guest: Stephen Reicher, Professor of Social Psychology at the University of St Andrews.

 

Host: Manveen Rana.


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0:00.0

Three weeks ago the rumors started to spread. Christmas was back on. For five days

0:10.1

between the 23rd and 27th of December, the government will pause coronavirus restrictions.

0:17.0

Three households will be allowed to mix indoors.

0:21.0

But, just because we can, does it mean we should.

0:25.0

All the science points to the fact that spread happens indoors in crowded and ill ventilated spaces.

0:34.0

If you wanted one bottom line finding from everything that's been done,

0:38.0

that's the finding.

0:40.0

Yesterday, the UK approved its first coronavirus vaccine for widespread use.

0:46.3

With the end, now clearly in sight, does the government's plan for Christmas still makes sense.

0:53.0

One of the things that has always stuck in my imagination about the end of the First World War

0:58.0

is that between the armistice being signed and the actual armistice is coming into effect.

1:03.0

In those six hours, some 10,000 people died.

1:07.0

Now, think about Christmas and think about the vaccine in those terms.

1:12.0

We'll hear from one of the psychologists advising the government

1:16.0

to try to understand the dilemmas facing politicians and the public around Christmas.

1:22.0

You're listening to stories of our times from the Times and the Sunday Times.

1:27.0

I'm Manveen Rana.

1:29.0

Today, weighing up the options for a COVID Christmas. I'm a social psychologist at the University of St Andrews and I sit on the advisory groups to the UK and Scottish governments.

1:48.0

Steve Reysher sits on SpyB, a committee that advises the UK government on behalf. on measures. Well, I was going to be a doctor. I've probably been more use if I was a doctor.

2:05.0

When I told my mother I was turning down a place at medical school, she wept.

2:09.0

He was on a bus, on the Hill's road in Cambridge, I remember remember that and probably everybody else on the bus

2:13.6

remembers it.

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