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What AI Will Do to Humanity: Forrest Maready on DarkHorse

DarkHorse Podcast

Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying

Natural Sciences, Society & Culture, News, Adaptation, Modernity, Culture, Politics, Science, Evolutionary Biology

4.65.3K Ratings

🗓️ 27 August 2025

⏱️ 120 minutes

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Summary

Bret Weinstein speaks with Forrest Maready on the subject of the dual nature of AI, discussing both its potential benefits and risks, particularly in relation to human suffering, dependency, and the evolving concept of truth. Find Forrest Maready on X at http://x.com/forrestmaready and his website http://forrestmaready.com. ***** Sponsors: Everyday Dose: Coffee plus collagen, mushrooms & nootropics – delicious! Get 45% off your first subscription order and also receive free gift...

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0:00.0

Hey folks, welcome to the Dark Horse podcast Inside Rail.

0:05.0

I am thrilled to have Forrest Moretti back on the show.

0:09.0

He, of course, was on earlier, and we talked about some of the amazing facts surrounding the polio vaccine and polio story based on his book, Moth and the Iron Lung.

0:21.8

The topic for today is very different, but I think it's going to be fascinating.

0:26.7

So, Forrest, welcome back to Dark Horse.

0:29.1

Hey, Brett.

0:30.0

Thanks for having me on.

0:31.2

Yeah, it's an interesting topic that I think you've brought a lot of interesting thoughts, too,

0:35.9

and hopefully I can saddle up with you here for a bit and talk about some interesting topics in AI and technology and what it holds for humankind.

0:48.3

Excellent. So we are going to, in a fit of irony, attempt to exert a bit of good old-fashioned bio-intelligence and point it

0:57.0

at artificial intelligence and see what we come up with.

1:01.7

Yeah.

1:02.2

All right.

1:02.9

So, yeah, I've said a number of things in the world.

1:05.9

I think actually a lot of things I've said have had an impact on people largely because they don't know how to

1:14.7

categorize them. Am I a pessimist? Well, I'm certainly not as dark as the Dumers. Am I an optimist? No,

1:23.0

clearly that's not right. So I think I've thrown a curveball that has resulted in a number of people

1:28.3

actually wondering, well, is there some sort of other view? And somewhere along the line,

1:36.3

you heard some of the things I said and it triggered you to think that there was a conversation

1:40.3

you and I needed to have. And based on the strength of your work in the books of

1:46.6

yours that I've read and the conversation we had, that's a good enough recommendation for me.

1:50.6

So let's lay your position out and see how the two match.

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