You know there are actual people behind all those lawsuits and briefs on

tech regulation today we hear from them from American public media this is

marketplace tech I'm Lily Dramale.

When you look at the lawsuits aimed at blocking attempts to regulate TAC, it's

usually not companies like Meta or Snap doing the suing. Often it's a group

called Net Choice. That group has emerged as Big Tech's top

lobbying force from Capitol Hill to the courts. Today a conversation with its head,

Carl Zabo, as well as with Megan Eiorio of the Electronic Privacy

Information Center, a non-profit focused on privacy.

They occasionally agree, but very often they do not.

Case in point, the California Age Appropriate Design Code Act,

which requires websites that children are likely to visit

to provide privacy protections by default.

It was set to take effect in July, but so far Zabo's group has successfully blocked it in court.

I sat down with both Carl and Megan. I started with Carl and

I asked him how their two groups interact. When it comes to protecting kids

and protecting kids online I think we all agree. look raising a kid in the 21st century is challenging and at the end of the day we want to find something that works and that is constitutional

so yeah I mean we're constantly talking at Net Choice to people on all

sides of the issue because at the end of the day, we want to reach the right

outcome because we want something that works for everyone.

And Megan, what would you say to that?

Can you give us some insight into what the relationship is between your group and

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