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What 1619 Means for Christian History

Quick to Listen

Christianity Today

Religion, Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.3622 Ratings

🗓️ 5 September 2019

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

Last month, the New York Times Magazine devoted an entire publication to remembering the 400th anniversary of American slavery. In the introduction to the project, it wrote,The 1619 Project is a major initiative from The New York Times observing the 400th anniversary of the beginning of American slavery. It aims to reframe the country’s history, understanding 1619 as our true founding, and placing the consequences of slavery and the contributions of black Americans at the very center of the story we tell ourselves about who we are.But the transatlantic slave trade goes back to the 15th century, when Portuguese merchants began trading North African people as slaves. The industry’s growth happened alongside massive changes in the church, including the Reformation in 1517 and subsequent church fighting and division between Catholics and Protestants.  To understand the church’s beliefs about slavery at the time, you have to go back to the Patristic period, says Michael A. G. Haykin, a professor of church history and biblical spirituality at Southern Baptist Theological Seminary. Augustine and Aquinas argued that while slavery was not part of God’s first intention, it was a result of the fall—a conclusion embraced by the church for years. “The only clear abolitionist in the patristic period is Gregory of Nyssa who argues that slavery violates the image of God in man, to hold another individual as a possession is a violation of his human dignity and value in the sight of God,” said Haykin. Haykin joined digital media producer Morgan Lee and editor in chief Mark Galli to discuss the genesis of the church’s views on slavery, how the missions movement affected the slave trade, and the role of the Quakers in pricking the Protestant conscience on this atrocity.  What is “Quick to Listen”? Read more Subscribe to Quick to Listen on Apple Podcasts Follow the podcast on Twitter Follow our host on Twitter: Morgan Lee Subscribe to Mark’s newsletter: The Galli Report Visit Michael Haykin’s blog Music by Sweeps Quick to Listen is produced by Morgan Lee and Matt Linder Today's episode of Quick to Listen is brought to you in part by Baylor University’s Truett Seminary, where Kingdom-minded women and men are equipped to follow their callings. By learning to think theologically, developing ministry skills, cultivating a community of support, and engaging in spiritual formation, Truett students are uniquely prepared to make an impact in the Church and the world. Learn more at baylor.edu/truett. This episode of Quick to Listen is also brought to you by Things Above Podcast: Heavenly Thinking for Earthly Engagement. This episode of Quick to Listen is also brought to you by Brotherhood Mutual Insurance Company, a ministry-focused insurance and payroll provider serving Christian churches, schools, and related ministries. For more information, visit BrotherhoodMutual.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:14.5

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Today is Thursday, September 5th, and you're listening to Quick to Listen, where we go beyond hashtags and hot takes discuss a major cultural event.

0:52.2

I'm Morgan Lee, which is your media producer here at Christianity today.

0:55.1

And I'm with Mark Galley, our editor-in-chief.

0:59.9

Hello, Mark. Hey, Morgan. How are you today? I am doing OK. This is the first day I've worn pants in forever, and it's only because it's supposed to be like in the 50s later today.

1:05.7

It's depressing. There you go. Okay means I'm actually doing terrible. I'm mad that summer is over.

1:12.1

I don't know if I'm glad or sad that it's over, but it was nice to wake up to a cool morning.

1:15.5

All right. Enough of you people. All right. Who's joining us?

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Joining us is Michael Haken. He serves as professor of church history and biblical spirituality at Southern Theological Seminary. He's author of many books, including Rediscovering the Church Fathers,

1:28.2

who they were and how they shaped the church. Welcome, Michael, and are there other books you'd like

1:32.8

to mention that you've done more recently? Glad to be here with both of you. And yeah, a recent book

1:37.7

published by Lexham Press is Loving God and Neighbor with Samuel Pierce. It's part of a series

1:42.9

called Live Theology that Lexham Press is

1:45.2

doing, and it really kind of tracks the life and thought of a very close friend of William Carey,

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man named... Well, it's great to have you here, Michael, although I'm not sure if your most recent

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titles are a good giveaway for what we'll be talking about today. So I'm going to get into that

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right now just to

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bring everyone up to speed. Last month, the New York Times Magazine devoted an entire publication to one

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issue. I'm going to read from the opening text that is in the online version of that issue. It says this.

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In August of 1619, a ship appeared on this horizon near Point Comfort, a coastal port in the British colony of Virginia.

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