Western Allies Formally Recognize A Palestinian State. The U.S. Won't.

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🗓️ 23 September 2025

⏱️ 17 minutes

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Summary

At the United Nations General Assembly, President Trump reiterated the U.S. had no plans to recognize a Palestinian state. It comes as many traditional allies, like Canada, the United Kingdom & France, have done so in recent days. We look at why, and what the political implications are.

This episode: White House correspondents Danielle Kurtzleben & Franco Ordoñez, and national security correspondent Greg Myre.

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0:00.0	Hey, it's Rachel Martin. I'm the host of Wildcard from NPR.
0:03.5	For a lot of my years as a radio host, silence sort of made me nervous.
0:08.7	That pause before an answer, because you don't know what's going on on the other side of the mic.
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0:20.0	Think.
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0:47.4	Oh.
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0:49.5	Do they know what's awaiting them here?
0:51.3	I mean, is this a good move?
0:52.7	Should we consult with them before they arrive? Hey, listen, I've stuck around here for, what, 17 years, so it can't be that bad. Or maybe it's inertia. I don't know. Hey there, it's the NPR Politics Podcast. I'm Danielle Kurtzleben. I cover the White House. I'm Frank Ordonez. I also cover the White House. And I'm Greg Myrie. I cover national security.
1:12.2	And today on the show, the U.S. and a number of its allies are finding themselves increasingly at odds over Israel's war against Hamas in Gaza.
1:20.3	In the last several days, some of the U.S.'s most traditional allies, the United Kingdom, Canada, France, and Australia, they've all officially recognized a Palestinian state.
1:29.8	The U.S. has not. So, Greg, I want to start with you. What does recognizing Palestine as a sovereign
1:36.4	state actually mean practically? Like, what does that entail for the country doing the recognizing,
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