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Hello and welcome to the Ringer NBA show. I'm Chris Ryan and I'm joined by my new co-host,

Cyrit. So, what's up? I'm good. I'm good. How's it going?

Good. Cyrit's the latest person to join the Ringer. The latest Ringer. I don't even know what to call

new employees at the Ringer. But, Cyrit, thank you so much for coming on the show. I really

wanted to do the answer with you because I don't know. I think you have such thoughtful answers to

like big NBA questions and that's what we're trying to do here. How have you been enjoying the

play in games? Because that's what I wanted to talk about today. Whether or not this has been a

successful product for the NBA because ultimately I feel like it was a consumer decision to make

this tournament, this play in tournament. It kind of helped sort of alleviate some of the late

season malaise and some of the tanking and some of the crap we're stuck in the middle.

Let's just kind of walk through these games at the end of the season. But ultimately,

I think it was like a product. And I wanted to know what you thought of it on a consumer reports

level. Yeah, I love that you called it a consumer report that kind of that gets so hard of exactly

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