When we talk about presidential conduct, we usually mean dignity and leadership.

The Gettysburg address, the call to arms after Pearl Harbor.

We don't usually talk about, say, the time Andrew Jackson threw such a huge rager at the

White House that he almost got crushed by the mosh pit and had to climb out the window

to escape.

Or the time the FBI director reportedly blackmail Gerald Ford with a tape of him getting

a B.J. from a German spy.

Or even the time JFK showed up to an international summit high on anthetamines and threatened

to start a nuclear war.

But maybe we should talk about all of that.

I'm Ashley Flowers and on my new show, Very Presidential, I'm going to be looking at

15 of our most badly behaved presidents in history to shine a light on what was really

going on in the White House.

It's a lot wilder than anything you learned in history class.

And the scariest part is, it's all true.

Join me on August 11th for the first two episodes where I'll look at the secret lives

John F. Kennedy and Lyndon B. Johnson.

After that, a new episode on another unruly commander in chief will be released every

Tuesday until November 10th.

Very presidential is a Spotify original from podcasts and you can find it for free on Spotify.