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Hello and welcome to Little Gold Men, the award season podcast from Vanity Fair.

I am delighted and proud to introduce him as Academy Award winner.

And the Oscar goes to.

And the Oscar goes to the winner, it's a tie.

And any little girl who's practicing their speech on the teller, you never know.

Mom, I just want an Oscar.

I'm David Canfield, and my guest today is Daniel Craig, who stars in one of my favorite films of the year, Luca Guadinos Queer.

This is an adaptation of the William S. Burroughs semi-autobiographical novel, and Craig plays the lead character of Lee, a wanderer in 50s Mexico City,

who becomes infatuated with a younger man,

played by Drew Starkey.

You think he's queer?

I mean, I spend time with him.

I can't tell.

Well, could always just ask.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

I want to talk to you without speaking.

This is a trippy movie in an emotional role for Craig, an obvious departure from his iconic performances as James Bond and Benoit Blanc and the Knives Out films.

In this conversation, we chatted

about how his approach to Lee differed from his previous roles, what he learned from working with

Luca Guadino and what it was like to get out of the Bond universe and how he's feeling about

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