This is on 10% happier we talk a lot about

ways to stop the interpersonal and also intrapersonal violence of obsessing over thinness.

I am personally very interested in how we can get healthy and fit

without compulsively trying to achieve some sort of arbitrary aesthetic standard.

Today's episode however is a bit of a departure because this whole dynamic and

debate has been deeply disrupted by the advent of Ozempeck and other new weight loss drugs which are technically

called GLP1s.

This is a very controversial and touchy subject to say the least, which is why I'm bringing on somebody who has thought deeply

about this. My guest today is Johann Hari. He's got a new book called Magic Pill,

the extraordinary benefits and disturbing risks of the new weight loss drugs.

Johann believes drugs such as Ozempek are the equivalent of the invention of the iPhone

and will impact all of our lives whether we like it not, and whether we take them or not.

And in his new book, Johann, who takes O'Epec himself somewhat ambivalently, marinates in the complexity

of this issue. A little background on Johann before we jump in.

He's a journalist and best-selling author.

This is his third time on the show.

He's come on before to discuss his prior books on distraction and depression entitled Stolen Focus and Lost Connections

respectively. Just to say before we dive in this episode is part of a series

we're running right now called Get Fit Sainly,

where we explore everything from longevity to exercise to the benefits of laziness.

If you missed the other episodes, I highly recommend you go check them out.

We'll get started with Johann Hari right after this.

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