Welcome to Straightwide American Jesus hosted in partnership with the Cap Center at the University of California Santa Barbara.

My name is Brad O'Nishi, Associate Professor, Religious Studies at Skidmore College, and I am here with my co-host.

My name is Dan Miller. I'm Associate Professor of Religion and Social Thought at Landmark College.

Glad to be here with you, Brad.

It's been another long and eventful week.

It really has.

And it, you know, it felt like Saturday

was this moment of Jubilee, people in the streets, people dancing, people

celebrating and then we just sort of moved into the week here and Trump has refused to concede

and there's been this full-on assault by leading, you know, top Republicans,

senators, Mitch McConnell, Rubio, Cruz, the normal suspects, along with a kind of media

blitz and a very poorly constructed legal

blitz in the courts on the part of Trump to sort of talk about, you know, things

like a stolen election and fraud and all this kind of stuff.

So, you know, it's one of those things where a lot of folks on Twitter Dan

have talked about how even when you are able to excise a malignant

narcissist from your life or an abuser from your life.

They're always trying to haunt you, you know, and they're always trying to sort of come back into your sphere in any way possible.

And that sense of relief is always sort of

Provisional so I think that's where we are now does that make sense to you that does make sense to you?

That does make sense to me.

And I think an overarching thing for me,

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