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Woman's Hour

Weekend Woman’s Hour: Female breadwinners, Married but living apart, Living with a terminal diagnosis, Traditional craftswomen

Woman's Hour

BBC

Society & Culture, Health & Fitness, Personal Journals

4.22.9K Ratings

🗓️ 9 August 2025

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

What happens when a woman earns more than her partner, or is the sole earner in a household? For some couples, it’s a practical arrangement that works well. For others, it can bring unexpected tensions, challenging traditional ideas about gender, identity and power. Listener Karla emailed the programme to say that she wanted to talk about what it means to be a female breadwinner. She joined Anita Rani along with Melissa Hogenboom, author of the book Breadwinners.

After 30 years of marriage, Margaret Murphy moved from the family home in Australia to the UK—alone. Fifteen years later, she and her husband are still married, despite living on opposite sides of the world. She talks to Nuala McGovern about how she believes her later-life choices reflect a freer, more modern way to look at traditional married life.

Listener Brenda wrote in about her situation: “I would love to hear you talking about a mother's play-book or instruction manual for getting through cancer. I would love to know how others are doing it.” Ailsa McDonagh also got in touch after an on-air shout out. She has been living with cancer for almost 10 years and received her diagnosis when her children were aged one and three. Both Brenda and Ailsa joined Anita to discuss.

Mary-Havana Little is a traditional fibrous plasterer. She got in touch for Listener Week to suggest we talk about traditional crafts. Mary is one of the few women in the plastering world, working to create ornate decorative mouldings using techniques from hundreds of years ago. She joined Anita to speak about working in this male-dominated craft, and why she wants to inspire more women and girls into the industry.

Listener Sally Ruffles describes herself as a 68-year-old woman with one daughter and no grandchildren. She got in touch with Woman's Hour for Listener Week to say: "There’s this common assumption that having grandchildren is always a wonderful thing. But nobody really stops to think that not having them might also be okay—or even a positive thing for some people." She joined Nuala with her daughter Hannah, who persuaded her mother to write to Woman's Hour, to discuss why it can be difficult to talk about not being a grandparent.

To kick this week off, we heard from listener Melanie Williams. Melanie is forever having to adjust her seatbelt because of her bust size. She worries if she were to be in an accident she would end up choking or being strangled by her seatbelt rather than protected by it. Melanie joined Nuala, along with motoring journalist Maria McCarthy who has been looking into the issue.

Jess wrote in to tell us about a poem she came across on social media about the post-partum period, calling it “absolutely beautiful”. She added: “There are hundreds of comments across Instagram and TikTok of mothers feeling exactly the same way. Please check it out, I would love to hear more from this poet.” We’ve tracked her down and her name is Amy Williams. She joined Nuala to perform the poem live in the studio.

Presenter: Anita Rani Producer: Annette Wells Editor: Rebecca Myatt

Transcript

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0:00.0

BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, podcasts.

0:05.1

Hello, I'm Anita Rani and welcome to Woman's Hour from BBC Radio 4.

0:10.1

Hello and welcome.

0:11.7

It was listener week on the programme this week where all the items and stories was suggested by you.

0:17.6

Margaret Murphy, who at the age of 57, decided to leave Australia and live out her dreams

0:22.9

in London, leaving her husband behind, but remains happily married 15 years later. Can a long-distance

0:29.4

marriage be a more modern way to stay married? How does your seatbelt feel when you're driving?

0:35.4

One of our listeners says having a large bust means most

0:38.3

seatbelts make for an uncomfortable drive. Why is that and how much do car companies take

0:43.2

women's anatomy into consideration when it comes to safety? We were asked to track down the poet

0:49.1

Amy Williams and ask her to perform her viral hit poem six to eight weeks. It's about the time after giving birth.

0:56.4

So we did.

0:57.8

Also, women not becoming grandmothers.

1:01.0

Listener Sally wanted to explore the societal expectations

1:03.8

that she's encountered on that front.

1:06.7

And a specialist decorative plasterer,

1:09.2

one of the few female plasters in the country, Mary Havana Little.

1:13.6

Many years ago it was a bit like, oh, what is she doing here? You know, like my dad would take me on site and he'd get the side eye.

1:20.3

But now, yeah, people really respect me now for my work. But I've worked really hard to get where I am.

1:25.4

So I think I deserved a little bit of respect.

1:28.0

It's going to be a good one, so settle in.

1:30.6

But first, what happens when a woman earns more than her partner or is the sole earner in a household?

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