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I'm Gail Straub and you're listening to She Explores.

I work as a software QA engineer for a financial company.

Very, very different from the outdoor world.

I always feel so awkward when people are like,

oh, what did you do this weekend? I just went camping. Let's just go with that.

This is Paulina Dow. She's what a lot of people call a weekend warrior. As she jokes, she works a full-time job.

She spends a lot of her free time at the

and she heads out on the weekends to camp, backpack, climb, and hike.

Pauline is constantly challenging herself, but she wouldn't say that she's special.

She recognizes that she has a lot of room to grow.

In some ways, I saw some of my younger and current self in Paulina.

She downplays her accomplishments, but I don't think that she should.

Paulina says she's not a writer, and I can't say I believe that.

I ran into Paulina via her online presence. She runs a blog called Little Grunts,

and I was first drawn into a blog post

she wrote about diversity and outdoor media,

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