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The Daily

Wednesday, July 12, 2017

The Daily

The New York Times

Daily News, News

4.3107.7K Ratings

🗓️ 12 July 2017

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

The Times obtains Donald Trump Jr.’s emails about an offer of help from the Russian government. “I love it,” he wrote. The story behind the story, and what we mean when we talk about “collusion.” And the scene from the Iraqi city of Mosul: What Islamic State militants left behind. Guests: Matt Apuzzo, one of the reporters who broke the story about Donald Trump Jr.’s emails; Rukmini Callimachi, who covers the Islamic State, and Andy Mills, a producer with her in Mosul. For more information on today’s episode, visit http://nyti.ms/2sPxzbb.

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0:00.0

From the New York Times, I'm Michael Barbarrow. This is the deal.

0:09.0

Today, the Times gets Donald Trump Jr.'s emails about an offer from the Russian government.

0:15.0

I love him, Hero. And what ISIS left behind?

0:20.0

The streets of Moscow in the hours after the Iraqi government declared victory over the Islamic State.

0:27.0

It's Wednesday, July 12th.

0:34.0

Mattapuso, it's Tuesday morning in the Times Newsroom. What's happening?

0:40.0

We've got the emails. We've been searching for these emails for days.

0:44.0

These are the emails between Donald Trump Jr. and Rob Goldstone, the friend who is going to set up this meeting at Trump Tower with a Russian lawyer.

0:54.0

We're calling around and we're asking people for comment. And that means, of course, we call Don Jr. and say, we have the emails.

1:02.0

We want your comment and we're going to publish. Your deadline is 11 a.m.

1:06.0

So he understands that 11 o'clock, boom, this big story is going to land.

1:11.0

Right. Exactly. There's no question. We told him we have to have a comment.

1:15.0

And this shouldn't have been a surprise, right? They must have known somebody was going to get the emails.

1:20.0

So we said you have until 11. Okay. And then what happens? Well, then he started tweeting, right?

1:26.0

Then he goes on Twitter and starts publishing the emails himself. And he did that at 11 a.m. the deadline.

1:32.0

Right. Which means he was trying to self-publish around the New York Times.

1:37.0

Sure. And I mean, that's right. I mean, he had said he would send a statement and he did.

1:41.0

He also sent the world a statement, which it wasn't beyond the realm of possibility.

1:45.0

And it was certainly not something we hadn't considered. I mean, the idea that Don Jr. would be on Twitter is certainly a realistic assumption of how this could go.

1:54.0

So we had a story that was essentially ready to go as soon as the tweet started coming, we published.

2:01.0

And I don't even think he'd finished tweeting out the string of emails before we published.

2:05.0

So Matt, what does this email from Rob Goldstone to Donald Trump Jr. say was June 3rd, 2016, 1036 a.m.

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