They're trying to answer questions about upward mobility in America.

The military strategist, it was profiled brilliantly by somebody.

So I think if you could find a subculture of people.

With a kind of form of life on this planet that we haven't really seen before.

From One World Trade Center in Manhattan, this is The New Yorker Radio Hour, a co-production

of WNYC Studios and The New Yorker.

Welcome to The New Yorker Radio Hour. I'm David Remnick. It's June. And if you're going to be

a bride this month, or you're going to be around a bride this month,

we might have the story for you.

It comes courtesy of the great Kristen Whig.

That's coming up later this hour.

Now, a couple of weeks ago, I sat down for a conversation with a clergyman named William Barber.

Reverend Barber is pastor of Greenleaf Christian Church in Goldsboro, North Carolina.

And until recently, he was president of the North Carolina chapter of the NAACP.

Four years ago, Reverend Barber led more than a thousand demonstrators who were arrested

for refusing to leave the state legislative building in Raleigh.

Because we have no permanent friends or permanent enemies, only permanent interests rooted in the

values of the Constitution.

What we stand for is bigger than Republican and Democrat, bigger than liberal and conservative.

It's bigger than white and black.

It's about what's right.

It was a movement barber called Moral Mondays.

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