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welcome to the First Cup podcast. I'm Greg Dusharim, joined today by Kyle Porter as we wrap up the Waste Management Phoenix Open and another playoff on the PGA tour. An exciting one at that we had, this is the nice guy playoff. We had

Tony Fee now and Webb Simpson in a playoff, Webb Simpson getting the job done there with

birdies on the 18th hole, both in regulation and in the playoff. Kyle, you had to rewrite your

story again here tonight. What's going on with that? What's your take? I did have to rewrite it.

I had the whole thing written.

We were ready to rock and roll.

And, of course, Webb, what was his, how far was the putt in regulation?

Was it like 20 feet?

It looks like, it looks like about 20 feet.

Yeah, I think I'll get that exact number here.

But, you know, it was interesting because he, so he goes in the water off 15 off the T and you're like, well, this is over.

But then Finaw didn't really capitalize on 15, and Webb kind of rebounded, and then he birdies the last two.

And I don't know, it just, it felt like as good of a win as it was for Webb it felt like a big

kind of whiff for Fienow I mean to lead by two with two to go and to lose it in a playoff you know

I don't I think Finaw is great I think that look all the caveats I think we overrate winning

I think wins don't matter as much as people think,

but also, like, you have to win, and he doesn't win. And he's in all these tournaments,

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