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Cult Conversations: The Influence Continuum with Dr. Steve Hassan

"We Will Dance Again: Documenting the Nova Music Festival Terror Attack by Hamas Terrorists." with Yariv Mozer

Cult Conversations: The Influence Continuum with Dr. Steve Hassan

Dr. Steven Hassan

Self-improvement, Society & Culture, Education

4.8684 Ratings

🗓️ 18 August 2025

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

Watching the Emmy award-winning documentary We Will Dance Again was really really difficult. This 2024 documentary captures Hamas terrorists brutally attacking the Nova music festival attendees on October 7th, 2023, and shows the horrifying events that followed, including hostages taking. Documenting a Terrorist Attack by Hamas from Multiple Perspectives is not an easy task. “I think that this is a terror attack that you can see for the first time from both perspectives that captured the same moments at the same time and I think this is the power of this film,” Yariv said. Yariv implored listeners to please remember that most Israelis are for human rights, democratic rule of law, and policies to stop the war between Israel and Palestine. “I think at this point, this war should have ended, the hostages should have been released. I think it’s the responsibility of the state and government of Israel to focus on their release, not killing Hamas and Palestinians controlled by Hamas. Israel should have stopped the war. The casualties of war, the innocent casualties of war, are devastating. And there is a point at which a country needs to understand that war cannot solve everything, and violence cannot solve everything,” Yariv said. We discussed what psychological warfare is also at play in this attack and the events following. I noted that both the United States and Israel are under extreme right-wing leadership at this time, and this directly impacts ongoing conflicts and continuing harm. “Do not blame every Israeli for every type of policy that our government is conducting,” Yariv noted. I mirrored the same about the United States: “Don’t hate the American people. Most of us are good people, and we don’t like Trump, and we’re appalled by his destruction of the checks and balances of laws, the applications of all the rights that we fought for.” I also reminded listeners that not everything was black or white in the Israeli and Palestinian conflict, and the history of harm in the region is extensive and complex. “I’m seeing entities of authoritarianism versus people who are pro-democracy and human rights and women’s rights and gay rights and indigenous rights and children’s rights,” I noted. Yariv and I both agreed that the pain being inflicted upon the Palestinian people was unacceptable and not helping any of these regions to heal. I added that I hoped we were able to find peace without further cooking our planet and destroying our environment, as wars are costly in so many ways. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello, I'm Dr. Stephen Hassan with another episode of my podcast called Conversations,

0:10.7

The Influence Continuum, with me, Dr. Steve Hassan.

0:14.2

I have a very distinguished filmmaker for a second interview. I interviewed Urive Mosier about his incredible

0:27.9

film that is now on Amazon Prime called The Devil's Confession, the Ikeman, the lost

0:36.1

Ikeman tapes, excuse me, on Amazon Prime.

0:40.4

And he recently won an Emmy for his documentary, We Will Dance Again, that is now streaming

0:48.6

on Paramount Plus.

0:51.0

And I told you, Reeve, after our last last interview I really want to watch it and I'm and I did and

1:00.6

before I give all the laudatories about your your your credentials you're Reeve I'll just say it was

1:07.1

such a powerful movie I can understand why it won an Emmy.

1:12.1

But it was so hard to watch

1:14.4

because it was a documentary

1:17.7

about the Nova Music Festival

1:20.3

where Hamas attacked on October 7th.

1:24.0

So it was like being there.

1:33.7

I'm tearing up, even talking about it. But let me just say you are a teacher at Tel Aviv University, you're at the Tisch School of Film and Television,

1:39.5

you're a board member of the Israeli Academy of Film and Television.

1:51.3

You just are an amazing storyteller and filmmaker.

1:58.0

I'm sure I'm leaving out more things, but we'll do a blog on this, and I just want to say that in this current insane moment in political history

2:05.9

of the planet Earth, both of our countries are just, there's so much chaos and ultra right-wing

2:15.9

extremists are in power,

2:20.0

and those of us committed to human rights and decency and Jewish values of Tikunalam

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