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We Were Three - Ep. 2: Assassin

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4.680.4K Ratings

🗓️ 13 October 2022

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Rachel retraces how her family, over decades, fell apart and came back together. For more information on 'We Were Three': https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/11/podcasts/we-were-three.html

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0:00.0

When I went to Rachel's house to interview her for the first time, I had my notes and

0:05.0

questions a whole game plan like I do. Within half an hour, I gave up on all that. We

0:11.4

were sitting in her living room facing a big Christmas tree covered in beautiful, strange

0:15.9

ornaments of insects sent to her by friends and strangers. Her brother Peter had raised

0:20.8

butterflies. And Rachel talked for six hours. Peter had been dead less than two months.

0:28.0

It was her first Christmas without him being alive. Her first birthday is the sole remaining

0:32.7

family member. Her birthday is Christmas Eve. She just talked about her family, especially

0:40.2

her brother. People want so much to vilify as an action when myself included in that.

0:47.4

And my brother was considered a villain. They were like, oh my god, he should be busted

0:54.9

for manslaughter, like back when he was still alive. She's talking about some of the responses

0:59.6

she got on Twitter. She wrote about how her brother hadn't gotten their father to the hospital

1:04.4

when he was dying of COVID. And you know, that's just how it is everywhere. I get it. The

1:10.0

internet is what it is. But I just, he has been reduced to like this bumbling conspiracy theory

1:21.7

riddled anti-vaxxer who just sat by and watched his dad die and then himself died. And there

1:30.3

are so many contributing factors to that. The disinformation and misinformation, the whole

1:39.4

swirl of rage politics and social media is part of what happened in Rachel's family.

1:45.7

This world matters. It did real damage. But for Rachel, it was nowhere near enough to come

1:51.6

to a real understanding of her brother's death. The brother she knew was a survivor, like

1:57.2

she is. Very accustomed to scrapping, avoiding, making do. There had always been one hardship

2:04.9

after another to find some way to live through. How was COVID the threat he and their father

2:10.7

missed? How could this be what did them in? This and not everything else. From cereal and

2:18.4

the New York Times, this is We Were Three. I'm Nancy Uptike.

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