Welcome to Breaking Down Patriarchy. I'm Amy McPhee All the Best. For those of you who love Beyonce's

2013 hit flawless, you may remember a clip from Chimamanda Ngozi Aditya's iconic TED Talk,

We Should All Be Feminists. Aditya then published a short book with the same title, and this book, We Should All Be Feminists. Aditya then published a short book with the same title.

And this book, We Should All Be Feminist, is a staple in women's studies and a wonderful resource because it's so concise and it's so accessible for any reader.

And to discuss the book today, I'm excited to welcome back to the podcast. Kylie Shepard, welcome Kylie.

Hi, I'm so happy to be here. So let's start out by getting to know you a little bit, Kylie.

Can you tell us where you're from and a little bit about what makes you who you are?

So I am from Bakersfield, California. I'm biracial, so my mom is white and my dad is black.

So growing up, there was kind of some confusion on what I really was, if that makes sense.

I knew I was black, but my family just kind of saw me as Kylie, and that's what I saw myself as well.

I am the oldest of three, but I have two little brothers. One is 11 and the others too, so lots of babysitting. I graduated high school in 2019 and started BYU the fall of the same year. My first year at BYU was pretty rough. I cried every single day and wanted to go home and called my mom begging to let me come home. So I'm a

psychology major, but after a lot of thought and thinking, I do want to be an elementary school

teacher, so that will be my focus after I graduate. Probably will go to grad school and maybe education

as my focus. We'll see. I change every single day. I am a founding member of

an activist group called the Black Ministers. We interview students and faculty on college campuses

with questions that start conversations about racial issues, biases, stereotypes, all of that good

jazz. It is kind of out of my comfort zone, but I do enjoy activism and

participating in social movements. And in my other spare time, I go to the movies or play with

my dog or take naps. That's great. So would you say, was it black menaces that helped you

turn a corner and feel more comfortable at BYU or what helped you

kind of get used to it at BYU? Oh, yeah. So it's probably definitely black menaces. I think

I went home after my freshman year for almost a year and a half because of COVID and it definitely

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