Really? Even this? Even a storm gets people out who've done their own research.

Oh, it's only going to do your damage if you've got a pre-existing condition like, I don't know, trees.

Really? Even here, the self-appointed sceptics are going to be poo-pooing, the expert forecast and the expert advice?

Honestly, every time you think you've reached rock bottom, along comes reality to give

your head a wobble.

We'll be taking travel bulletins, as you just noticed there, with Joanne at the top of

every hour throughout the day on LBC, or at least for as long as this.

Emergency situation continues.

One of the only times in living memory that the red alert...

I haven't checked that living memory line, actually.

So I might be speaking about someone who's only five.

So this is one of the only times in living memory

that a red alert has been applied to London.

And we will, of course, be keeping a very, very close eye on proceedings.

I think at this point in the conversation,

I'm minded not to give any airtime to storm deniers who popped up on Tom's breakfast show this

morning to my shock and wonder. But I don't know, you know, there's no point having a mind if you

never change it. Of course, if things turn out not to be as bad as the worst forecast have suggested,

we'll probably go all kind of right-wing newspapers going, oh, these experts don't know what they're talking about. You might as well lick your finger and stick it in the air. It's incredible, isn't it? They did it with all the sage modelling. Sage's come up with some worst-case scenarios. Daily Mail comes out and says, well, hang on a minute. The world's still here. It's like, It's a bit Brexit-y as well, is it, or not? Six minutes after 10 and the B-word's already crept in. Well, actually, I'm still alive. Therefore, all of these warnings about damage to trade have proved to be Project Fear, after all. What is it? Oh, I'm talking myself into doing it as a subject. What is the psychology that feeds this need to think that the experts are wrong?

Sometimes they are.

Or at least sometimes they are works in progress, waiting for the facts to change,

so that when the facts change, the science changes, and when the science changes, the minds change.

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