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🗓️ 1 July 2025
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0:00.0 | NPR. Here are two seemingly contradictory truths about the people of planet Earth. The first is that |
0:17.8 | over the past century, the world's population has exploded, going from around |
0:22.6 | 2 billion people to 8 billion people today. Truth number two is even as the Earth's population |
0:29.2 | has boomed, the average fertility rate has declined. And if things keep going that way, |
0:35.1 | a few decades from now, the world's population will actually |
0:37.9 | start to shrink. And just as the world's population spiked in recent centuries, it could also |
0:43.6 | crash. And our guests today say that we're living near the very edge of this crash. |
0:49.4 | This is the indicator from Planet Money. I'm Adrienne Ma. Today on the show, our guests are |
0:53.8 | economists Dean Spears and Mike Jerusalem. They've Adrienne Ma. Today on the show, our guests are economists |
0:54.4 | Dean Spears and Mike Jerusalem. They've co-authored a forthcoming book called After the Spike, |
1:00.3 | Population, Progress, and the Case for People. And when we come back, they'll explain why, |
1:05.6 | population-wise, the human party will soon peak, and why that's a problem. |
1:19.1 | For economists who study population growth and decline, the fertility rate is a very important metric. |
1:25.7 | The fertility rate is the average number of children a woman |
1:28.2 | has in a lifetime. And here, two is kind of the magic number. That's what demographers call |
1:34.8 | the replacement rate. And when the global fertility rate falls below two for long enough, |
1:40.1 | that leads over time to something called depopulation. Depopulation is the name for what happens when birth rates are low enough that the population shrinks, |
1:49.0 | decade by decade and generation by generation. |
1:52.0 | This is Dean Spears, an economist at the University of Texas at Austin. |
1:56.0 | And while fertility rates vary from country to country, |
1:59.0 | on a global scale, they've actually been declining |
2:01.6 | for centuries. And in fact, the vast majority of people on Earth today live in a country where |
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