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This is Deep State Radio, coming to you direct from our super secret studio in the third sub basement of the Ministry of Snark in Washington, D.C.

And from other undisclosed locations across America and around the world.

Hello and welcome to the podcast. It's that time of the week when we discuss things that explode dangerous technologies.

That's why we call it. We're all going to dive radio.

Of course, I'm here with my, I'm David Rothka, the co-host and I'm here with my co-host, John Wolfstahl. How are you doing today, John?

I'm good, David. I think the end may not be nigh, but it's hard to tell.

I don't know. Let's wait until the end of this podcast. You may change your view.

We are joined today by Paul Shari, who is executive vice president and director of studies at CNAS.

His most recent book is for battlegrounds, power in the age of artificial intelligence.

We've been hoping to have this conversation since we started this podcast.

These issues are at the forefront of our mind.

I do want to say that we had invited a couple of experts to join the panel who were women because we do try to have gender balance on our panels.

At the last minute, one of them couldn't join. We're not disappointed to have you here, Paul.

But I do want to make sure that everybody knows we do make that effort each and every week.

But let's start. John, why don't you start with the first question for Paul?

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