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ICYMI

We May Have A New Bad Art Friend

ICYMI

Slate Podcasts

Entertainment News, News, Tech News, Society & Culture

3.8 • 678 Ratings

🗓️ 11 September 2024

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

Candice Lim is joined by Slate culture writer Nadira Goffe to break down the BookTok drama surrounding Old Enough by Haley Jakobson. Last year, Old Enough hit the shelves as a queer, coming-of-age novel about a sophomore in college named Sav and her ex-best friend, Izzie. A year later, a guest of Lucie Fink’s podcast The Real Stuff claimed she was allegedly the basis for Izzie and that her childhood was “plagarized” for the novel — from her experience with sexual assault to sensitive details about her family. On today’s episode, ICYMI asks how this BookTok drama became the “Bad Art Friend” of 2024 and where the lines should be drawn when it comes to using the trauma of others to sell a book. This podcast is produced by Se’era Spragley Ricks, Daisy Rosario and Candice Lim. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey, listeners, quick warning. This episode does contain discussion of sexual assault.

0:18.9

Hey, I'm Candace Lim.

0:23.6

And I'm Nadira Goff, and you're listening to I-Cy-Y-M-I.

0:25.4

In case you missed it.

0:27.6

Slate's podcast about internet culture.

0:31.6

And Nadira, what was the biggest news of the weekend for you?

0:37.1

The biggest news of the weekend for me, which I feel like slipped under the radar in the grand scheme of things,

0:37.9

interestingly enough, is the news that Kendrick Lamar is going to be the next Super Bowl

0:42.7

halftime performer. And, you know, I just want to know if there's an over-under going on

0:48.7

on how many times he's going to perform not like us.

0:55.8

I think at least twice, right?

0:58.1

Yeah, I feel like he might do the thing that he did in his concert where he

1:01.1

restarts it.

1:02.1

Well, I guess he did play in full.

1:03.6

But he might do a thing where he restarts it where he's like, you all weren't loud enough

1:07.0

the first time I'm going to need you to, you know?

1:09.0

But I don't know.

1:10.6

I guess we'll see. I'm also to need you to, you know, but I don't know. I guess we'll

1:11.0

see. I'm also putting bets that he'll play all right, all the stars, and humble. But I don't know

1:18.0

exactly which song he'll start off with. So I'm still kind of pondering that. Yeah, I think you're

1:22.8

right. That did go under the radar a little bit, but it was a fun announcement that dropped this

1:26.9

weekend.

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