When's the first time you guys met?

When I, so I was...

I knew they were. I was down there several times.

Yeah, well, you didn't, well, let me explain.

So we were under SOCOM.

We were using the Army, and Eric can explain,

Army wanted to pull out, by the way.

Army did not like the fact we were using their technology

for our operations.

So...

Why wouldn't they?

Because, well, you want to explain that?

Part of it is when you're doing data mining, you're harvesting everything.

Including open source.

Intelligence collectors are very restricted on what we can collect it when the U.S. persons

comes up.

But when a tool does it, it gets everything.

And so you have to, you have to be able to go through that and excite all the information about

U.S. persons. This is a throwback from Vietnam Days and Pike and Church Committee 75, that kind of

stuff. So they wrote these regulations for intel collection, but they never

updated them, well, again, because we were the first data mining operation. We weren't intelligence.

I know this is going to sound weird. We were doing our effort under Title 10. Title 10 is known as

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