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We Don't Say That

Code Switch

NPR

Society & Culture

4.614.5K Ratings

🗓️ 8 May 2019

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

France is the place where for decades you weren't supposed to talk about someone's blackness, unless you said it in English. Today, we're going to meet the people who took a very French approach to change that. (Note: This story contains strong language in English and French.)

Transcript

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0:00.0

Do y'all remember when black folks were Afro-American?

0:05.1

Afro-American.

0:06.4

When I was young, Afro-American was everywhere.

0:10.8

Like, it was on the news.

0:12.8

It was in our textbooks.

0:13.9

In the second grade, right, our teacher was Washington Tukas.

0:17.4

On a field trip to what was then known as the Afro-American Cultural and Historical

0:22.5

Museum in Philadelphia, like, Afro-American was so official that it was in the name of

0:26.7

the Black People Museum.

0:28.2

And then, like, it was just gone.

0:30.2

Like, one day somebody said, all right, we off that.

0:32.5

We're Afro-American now.

0:35.7

So if you belong to this micro-generation of, like, older millennials, you might have

0:39.6

felt like you hallucinated that whole Afro-American moment.

0:42.2

And I was thinking about that as it pertained to this controversy in 2013, when the sense

0:47.1

of decided that it was going to drop Negro from its official designations on the census

0:51.2

form, right?

0:52.2

So, a lot of people's initial reaction was, well, first off, census.

0:56.3

Why is Negro still even on this form to begin with?

0:58.7

But if you look at someone like my grandmother, right, like, in her lifetime, depending on the

1:02.6

political moment, she would have been colored and Negro in Black lowercase and capital B.

1:07.6

Afro-American for a hot minute, yes?

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