'We cannot have art institutions that lose money': Grenell defends Kennedy Center takeover
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🗓️ 2 January 2026
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| 0:00.0 | And joining me now from Hermosa Beach, California for an exclusive interview is Richard Grinnell. |
| 0:06.0 | He's president of the newly renamed Trump Kennedy Center. |
| 0:09.0 | Last February, he was named interim president by the board that was appointed by President Trump. |
| 0:14.0 | Grinnell also served in Trump's first term, including as Ambassador to Germany, an acting director of National Intelligence. |
| 0:20.0 | Ambassador Grinnell, welcome to the NewsHour. |
| 0:21.6 | Thanks for joining us. |
| 0:23.6 | Thank you for having me. |
| 0:24.6 | I want to begin by just giving you the chance to respond to what you just heard there from Doug Verone, |
| 0:29.6 | from others in the piece reported by Jeff Brown, a number of artists who chose to cancel or pull out of performances, |
| 0:35.6 | citing both the President's takeover of |
| 0:37.7 | the Board and also the renaming of the Center. |
| 0:40.3 | What's your response? |
| 0:41.3 | Well, first of all, I would note that in the entire package and in the questions, there |
| 0:47.4 | wasn't a single question about the finances of what's going on. |
| 0:53.1 | And I've noticed at PBS, for instance, you all haven't covered any of the |
| 0:59.0 | finances in terms of the situation that the Kennedy Center has found itself. The Trump-Kennedy |
| 1:04.2 | Center is in a very different position than the previous center was. And I would say that we have a phenomenal situation |
| 1:15.7 | financially with the current Trump Kennedy Center because President Trump is a phenomenal |
| 1:22.3 | fundraiser. And what we've been able to do is look at ticket sales, donors, as well as corporate sponsors, |
| 1:32.3 | and come up with a holistic approach to how you look at the arts. |
| 1:37.3 | When I arrived at the Kennedy Center, the then Kennedy Center, we were paying staff with debt reserves. Now, I understand that there's a lot of reporters who don't understand finance |
| 1:48.0 | and who don't understand what paying for staff with debt reserves mean. |
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