Hi, everyone, and welcome to Exclusally Pro Life. I'm your host, Kristen Hawkins.

Thanks so much for tuning in this week. We have a very special guest, and as you know, we're talking about winning pro-life tactics.

So we've asked our good friend Liz Wheeler to come on and share with us some of her best tips for how to win in the Pro-Life movement.

As you all know, Liz just

released a brand new, highly anticipated podcast, Liz Wheeler's Show. I hope you've subscribed

already. If you don't, if you haven't, you need to. I'm sure you've probably seen Liz

in her clips before on TV, on your social media. She's in speaking on campuses

across the country, been in news articles across the country. Politico has actually labeled her

a titan of media. So welcome, Liz. Thanks for joining us today. Kristen, thanks for having me.

It's great to be here.

Yeah, it's good to talk with you again a little bit.

I think the last time we spoke,

it was like in the height of the COVID pandemic that was happening.

Now it's a little bit different a year later.

But I'm talking this specific season about some winning tactics. I've been interviewing

different pro-life leaders from across the country who in their hometowns, in their states,

are doing some really innovative things to kind of change up the game

and to help us save more lives, get the message out about the violence of abortion and those who propagate abortion.

But I wanted you to come on and talk about, you know, how we can win in the media and how do we fight back against everything

and the disinformation that we hear all the time in the news media. Right. And it's a good question.

And there's a lot of different answers, but I would say, first of all, remember that we are

winning. And when I say we are winning, I mean we are winning the culture war, which is an important first step before we can win legislatively. But the pro-life movement, ever since Roe v. Wade has put effort into winning the culture war. That means, of course, winning people's hearts and minds, winning public opinion. And we are winning that. Because if you do a survey, and this is not hypothetical, there have been surveys done, and you ask people, are you pro-life or are you pro-choice? Yeah, maybe a few more people say pro-choice. But when you actually ask specifically, do you support abortion in the first trimester, the second trimester, and the third trimester, over 80% of Americans, this includes pro-abortion and pro-life people, want third-trimester abortion banned. Second trimester and the third trimester, over 80% of Americans, this includes pro-abortion and pro-life people

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