On the next episode of Louder Than a Riot, the 20 year fight to clear the name of former

no-limit rapper, Mac Fips.

Because me and my brother was close.

The years that he lost, that's some of the best years of his life.

He lost.

For me, it just hurts.

Listen now to Louder Than a Riot, the new podcast from MPR Music.

For MPR Music, you're connected to all songs considered.

I'm Bob Boylin.

Today, a conversation with Flaming Lips Wayne Coyne.

The subject is Drugs.

It's a centerpiece of their new and 16th studio album, American Head.

The songs, written by Wayne Coyne, Steve Drosed in the band, weaves real life experiences

with fiction, often depicting the sadness and tragedy of drug use.

In this conversation, Wayne Coyne speaks to the tragic loss of friends, the impact on

families, and how the contemplative and thrilling sounds of this record came to be.

And it all began with an unlikely inspiration, the death of musician Tom Petty.

There's this great three hour long documentary about Tom Petty in his early life, and you

know, just an amazing insane career, and follows him through all this stuff.

And some of the most inspiring bits of it, I think for most people, you know, it's like,

how does Tom Petty get this whole thing going, you know?

And in the beginning of this documentary, it talks about when they are traveling from

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