Hello and welcome to another MLEX podcast.

I'm Mike Swift, MLEX's chief digital risk correspondent here in San Francisco, California.

And it was an extraordinary week here in federal court in San Francisco, particularly in the high-stakes litigation between Uber Technologies and Waymo, Google's self-driving car unit, over the alleged theft by Uber of trade secret technology.

And here to tell us about the testimony is Amy Miller,

our senior reporter for privacy and data security. Welcome, Amy. Hi, Mike. So give us a brief

overview of what happened this week. Well, in an unusual move, the trial was postponed for a second time after

the judge overseeing the case got an explosive letter from federal prosecutors. The letter was

written by a former Uber security employee who alleged that Uber had a team dedicated to stealing competitors' trade secrets and

using technology to cover their tracks, such as disappearing messages or using servers that

wouldn't store information on Uber's main computer system.

And so the judge ordered executives from Uber to come in and testify and ordered the former

employee of Uber to come in and testify about the letter.

Yeah, it was an extraordinary scene.

I mean, you were there for the whole thing, all two days of testimony.

I was there for only a little bit, but so often with these cases, you know, by the time you get to the eve of

trial, you've had months and years of maneuvering and thousands of pages of filings and everything

feels very sort of orchestrated. And this was amazing because it felt like, you know, this whole

thing was unfolding right in real time.

And tell us a little bit about that.

Well, it was a very unusual hearing because it's very unusual for federal prosecutors to send evidence over to a judge in a civil case.

And so this letter was sort of out of the blue.

And everyone came in. It was packed. out of the blue. And everyone came in.

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