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Waymo’s Growing Pains

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KQED

News Commentary, News, Politics

4.2727 Ratings

🗓️ 5 June 2026

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

Self-driving car companies like Waymo say their autonomous vehicles are dramatically safer than human drivers. But a new CNN investigation found that when things do go wrong, they tend to go wrong in decidedly un-human ways: being incapable of responding to instructions from first responders, driving through crime scenes, and even attempting to traverse entirely flooded streets. As Waymo expands into new markets nationwide, we’ll examine these safety issues  — and hear why a lot of passengers love self-driving cars anyway. Guests: Yahya Abou-Ghazala, reporter and producer, CNN's investigative unit Rya Jetha, senior reporter covering physical AI and robotics, Business Insider Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:39.2

As Moro Buemo's driverless taxis are being deployed in California and other states,

0:43.5

new unexpected problems are cropping up, according to a CNN investigation,

0:47.5

driving into crime scenes or construction zones and flooded roads

0:51.1

because their sensors cannot detect water depth.

0:54.4

Last month, the companies suspended all freeway rides over safety concerns.

0:58.7

This hour, we'll look at the new set of issues the new technology is creating

1:02.6

and why passengers seem to like the robotaxies anyway.

1:06.9

Listeners, have you noticed any unusual behavior from a Waymo or other self-driving car?

1:12.1

Do you use them anyway?

1:13.8

Joining me is Yahya Abu Ghazala, a reporter-producer with CNN's investigative unit based in Washington, D.C.

1:20.8

He co-authored the investigation, Driving Like Teenagers, Waymo Robotaxies, have run red lights and nearly hit pedestrians.

1:29.2

Yaha, thanks so much for being with us.

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