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Welcome back to 4 to 6th with A&B, your Ohio State podcast on the Athletic Bill Landis

joined as always by Ari Wasserman coming off of what to me Ari felt like the first real weekend of college football.

Like we've been playing it for, I don't know, four weeks, three or four weeks now.

But this past weekend when the SEC got rolling, it felt like real to me.

It felt like a normal Saturday, or I guess as normal as it can feel when like the Pac-12 and the Big Ten still aren't playing.

Did you just say the SEC is the best conference in college football? Is that what I heard?

I mean, it just means more. It does. Yeah, I felt that too. The one thing I will say is that like when we first were faced with the reality that there might not be fans in stadiums, that was kind of a weird thing to picture, especially going to a stadium every weekend for the past, you know, five, ten years, depending on who we're talking about, filled with 100,000 fans for the most part.

But I will say that the TV viewing experience has been awesome and feels normal even if the

stadiums are empty.

And then in some stadiums, there's just a ton of people.

So I don't know.

I'm still kind of wrapping my mind around that a little bit.

There were a few times where even in the Oklahoma game,

there was a screen grab I saw where Spencer Rattler was walking behind the bench without a mask on.

And there were a bunch of fans without wearing masks, like leaning over,

trying to high-five them.

And it's just like kind of surprising a little bit about like how close they're getting to people who are in the stadium, but

not to detract from the point.

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