This is a download from LBC, Steve Allen's Little Bit Extra.

Morning, everybody, welcome along to your free podcast for today.

You have to excuse me today because I've been a bit vague throughout the program

because this is day three, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, of not, wait a minute, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,

of not taking the tablet, the beta blocker, and it's made me drowsy. I don't know whether it's supposed to perk you up or not, but anyway, I feel distinctly drowsy this morning. I had loads of sleep. I went to bed yesterday. I was four in the afternoon because I was tired and then sort of slept all the way through and it was lovely. And then even then I got up and I thought, you know, it's like, you have too much sleep, I've decided. And then you think, this is really bad.

In fact, the less sleep you have, the better I am. Anyway, it was all kicked off yesterday

after Naomi Campbell, pulled me from the show. Well, I say pulled me. I mean, she didn't pull me at all. but she turned up on loose women in sunglasses but she's a celebrity and that's what we wear

no voice she'd had one hour sleep apparently she went to bed at 5.30 in the morning how she

I mean she managed to keep it all together so that was that was good you know that was sort of good

she came in here lovely the photographer's outside take a picture of it you tend to forget now

she's getting on a bit she's not the spring chicken um they don't now put her age down, and I'm not sure.

She was set to peer at 1pm on loose women, but as the clock struck one, she was nowhere to be seen.

And then the London traffic was holding her up.

Well, she was late here as well.

She was 47, nearly 47, but apparently, so the, actually the

worst thing was to watch Sarah Kahn, brown-nosing, the worst, and I mean that in the nicest possible

way. It was sort of, it was sort of, oh, you're a role model, you're this and that. I mean,

really, if she'd been an ice cream, they couldn't have licked her more graciously. And then eventually,

somebody chipped in and shut Sarah Kahn up because she was getting on a little bit too gushing.

You've been an inspiration to me and to my children and to women of colour and everything else,

as if she'd sort of suddenly invented the movement, you know, as if it was all Naomi Campbell.

I was going to point out to Sarah Kahn. There have been black models before, you know,

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