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Welcome to Inside the Hive. I am your host Nick Bilton. I am convinced at this point that I could try out for the announcer job at the

W. W. W.F. where they welcome the wrestlers out, but I am not going to do it.

Welcome, just kidding.

All right, so I used to live in Silicon Valley

thereabouts a few miles north of there.

And I remember when I was covering these companies,

people used to say to me, is this person or that person this CEO or

that employee a sociopath this was the word that was used all the time is

Elizabeth Holmes a sociopath is Mark Zuckerberg a sociopath is jack

dorsy a sociopath, is a sociopath.

And you know, when you look at them in these individual moments,

you think like, well, maybe, maybe not.

But when you kind of look at the industry as a whole,

it seems like something isn't right up there like there's

something in the water or maybe we just need to kind of rethink what this term

sociopath means my guest today Mike Isaac who is a reporter for the New York Times, has written a book on someone who a lot of people ask is a sociopath. Yes, that's right, Travis Kalinik, who founded and started Uber.

And he is here to tell me all of the crazy shit

that happened at that company

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