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What Next | Daily News and Analysis

Was the Flash Flooding in Texas Preventable?

What Next | Daily News and Analysis

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News, Daily News, News Commentary, Politics

4.62.3K Ratings

🗓️ 9 July 2025

⏱️ 21 minutes

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Summary

After one of the deadliest floods in American history in central Texas, people are looking at cuts to the National Weather Service and FEMA’s absence contributing to the devastation. But one looming problem is much, much bigger. Guest:  Jeff Goodell, writer covering climate change, author of The Heat Will Kill You First: Life and Death on a Scorched Planet and The Water Will Come: Rising Seas, Sinking Cities, and the Remaking of the Civilized World. Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen. Podcast production by Ethan Oberman, Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme, and Rob Gunther. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

On July 4th, journalist Jeff Goodell stood on his back porch in Austin, Texas, with a bad feeling in his gut.

0:14.6

He was watching a storm roll through.

0:17.1

You know, I live in Texas.

0:18.3

We tend to have intense rainfalls.

0:21.0

It's not an uncommon thing.

0:24.1

But this was particularly intense.

0:26.4

This was, I don't like to use this phrase, but I will.

0:30.0

It's applicable here, biblical.

0:31.9

I mean, it felt, you know, like something else.

0:35.1

And I looked at my wife who was standing with me and said,

0:43.6

this is going to be trouble. Jeff writes about climate disasters, heat, but also flooding.

0:49.2

He's got a book called The Water Will Come. Last week, it did.

0:56.1

There was water everywhere. I mean, water flooding, running into the understory of our house,

1:03.2

you know, running through our driveway, out the streets. I mean, it was a major event.

1:13.7

By now, you know what Jeff was seeing. The same rainstorm had just blown through the hill country, west of Austin.

1:17.2

Only there, the consequences were deadly.

1:25.4

Turning now to the deadly catastrophic flooding in central Texas that is leading to desperate searches for survivors tonight.

1:28.8

More than 20 children at this hour are missing.

1:37.7

CBS News is learning the worst hit areas of the Lone Star State saw 12 inches of rain per hour on July 4th.

1:44.4

Holmes swept away after the rising Guadalupe River blasted through Texas Hill Country in the dark of night.

1:53.9

In the days since, it's been hard not to focus on stories of survival and stories of loss.

1:57.2

More than 100 people were killed when the water rushed in.

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