Welcome to today's program. My name is Glenn Dyson, professor of political science.

With me is Alexander McCurice from the very popular and informative Duran.

And the guest today, back very much by popular demand as well, is Jeffrey Sachs,

a renowned economist, former economic advisor to Poland, to Gorbachev, Yeltsin, and, well, I assume

everyone now know who Jeffrey Sachs. So welcome back, sirs. Good to see you. Great to be with you. Thank you.

So the topic we really wanted to cover today was, yeah, well, war in the West, or at least the

proximity of the West and

the economic connectivity and development currently happening in the East, especially with this

Belt and Road Initiative summit. As, you know, Financial Times wrote only a few days ago

that a G7 diplomats argued that the West had lost the battle for the global

south over its position on Israel and Palestine.

And all at the same time as this is happening, of course, we're seeing at the other side of the

world the global south or the global majority, as now often referred to, meet in Beijing for this Belt and Road initiative.

And the quite shocking is, yeah, the large absence by the West, which I think only Hungary

appeared of all the Europeans with Viktor Orban.

And it seems, yeah, the West is boycotting it to a large extent where most of the new economic connectivity is taking place.

And I'm fearful at least that it ends up in isolating itself.

But I thought we can start with the conflict going on in Israel and Palestine first.

Because I think we're, everyone, well, hopefully everyone was horrified by the

Hamas brutal killing of Israeli civilians. But of course, the context of the situation of

Palestinian lives and the response of Tel Aviv has also been and continues to be quite horrifying

as well. So Professor Sachs, I was hoping that you could start off by perhaps giving

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