It's the Brian Lairn on WNYC. I'm Tiffany Hansen in for Brian today. Good morning, everybody.

Well, ever since the public first got a taste of the capabilities of artificial intelligence. A debate has been

underway. Whether or not it will revolution our lives or make it better or worse. On one end of

the spectrum, we've got A.A.A.A.A.I. CEO Sam Altman, who wax poetic about the ways in which artificial intelligence

will make the world a better place. A quote from his blog post titled The Gentle Singularity,

which was published in June, says, quote, the gains to quality of life from AI, driving faster

scientific progress and increased productivity will be

enormous. The future can be vastly better than the present. Much of the discussion that we

typically host about AI is more on the pessimistic side of the spectrum. You've probably heard

concerns about AI's effect on our cognitive abilities,

about effects on our workers and replacing workers

with artificial intelligence.

And then there are the DOOMers.

And these are folks who actually believe

that artificial intelligence, artificial super

intelligence will be the end of humanity,

full stop. We are going to hear from one of the most prominent AI Dumers now with us is Nate Sauri's,

president of the Machine Intelligence Research Institute and co-author, along with L.A. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E.E. E. E.E. E. E.E. E.E. E.E. E.E. E.E. E.E. E.E. E.E. E.E domer? Is it accurate? You know, I would distinguish

the doom bringers from the people pointing out the doom. I'm not the one racing towards building

smarter than human AI, and I think someone needs to point out that we have no idea how to do this.

There's no established science of how to do this in a way that's not dangerous

and that the default outcome if this race continues and some were very bad.

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