War on Truth: 5. Rob: ‘Covid was a hoax, and so is the war’
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BBC
2.8 • 947 Ratings
🗓️ 1 April 2022
⏱️ 18 minutes
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Summary
What does the invasion of Ukraine have in common with the coronavirus pandemic?
On the face of it not much at all, but disinformation about the war is also fuelling existing conspiracy movements around the world.
Covid denialists who claimed the pandemic was invented by a shadowy elite to impose a tyrannical global government, now believe that the conflict in Ukraine is part of the same evil plot.
It’s a bizarre offshoot of the extraordinary information war that’s being fought over Ukraine, in parallel to the military campaign on the ground.
So how and why are these baseless conspiracy theories taking root?
In this podcast series, BBC disinformation reporter Marianna Spring investigates stories from Ukraine, Russia, and around the world, and hears from those caught up in the battle over the truth.
Producer: Ant Adeane
Editor: Ed Main
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| 0:42.6 | This is Rob. He lives in Eastern Canada. |
| 0:45.6 | We're kind of ending our winter season, so there's a little bit of snow left on the ground. |
| 0:51.0 | Recently, I got in touch after seeing some of his posts online about world events. |
| 0:56.0 | My knowledge on this stuff just comes from my personal interests in researching the geopolitical |
| 1:01.5 | situations and just trying to tie all that stuff together. |
| 1:04.7 | Some of the conclusions he was drawing were a little, well, out there, like when COVID |
| 1:10.4 | hit. |
| 1:14.4 | Right away, I was suspicious of the whole thing immediately. |
| 1:17.2 | I never bought any of it, to be honest. |
| 1:21.0 | And Rob, who doesn't believe the pandemic was real, |
| 1:24.3 | thinks we're all being misled about the war in Ukraine. |
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