My name is Stan. I'm at. Nice to meet you. So you took up photography where? I've always loved

photography but I turn it into earning a living at 60. I enrolled on a day course.

Well college. I loved going to college. It's good you can retry. I'm enrolled on the day course. But college?

I loved going to college.

It's good you can retrain and do something.

Yeah, yeah.

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everything on a mobile device right now and like me you might feel a nagging anxiety that for all that we've gained in terms of convenience and

ubiquity we've also lost things that we can't quite put our fingers on,

that somehow we find it harder to concentrate with these devices in our hand.

Our guest today has been thinking long and hard about what digital media is doing to our powers of attention

and specifically to reading since the very early days of digital media itself.

In 1994, long before the advent of the mass internet, the tree critics

Sven Berkett published the acclaimed book The Gutenberg Elegies,

a precedent look at what could happen to the experience of reading in a world

perceived by digital information.

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