This week on Forward, but as with everything, Musk, it's not simple. He's

somewhat material. There's no one simple answer where I can say is he a

Democrat Republican left right. I think you have to read the evolution that

happens over the past three years. A very closely associated quote is

technology does not automatically progress, which is what a lot of people think.

Technology design, field they go, technology is going to get better. And his

point is technology does not automatically progress. It requires human agency.

And that's easier for Elon to see and think because he's literally the agent.

Musk is not doing his rockets as a billionaire boys toy. He's not flying up in

the rockets. himself he's actually transforming our ability to get into space.

It is my distinct privilege and pleasure to welcome the biographer to the great

geniuses of our time and the author of the recent authoritative biography on

Elon Musk, aptly called Elon Musk Walter Isaacson. Welcome Walter. Good to

talk to you again, Andrew. Good to talk to you as well. Holy crap, man. I feel

like I've just found out what you've been doing for the last two years. What

was your reaction when you first realized? I guess I'm going to follow Elon Musk

around for two years. You know, I was talking to him because I had done a book, as

you know, on Steve Jobs and bring us to the digital revolution. Then one on

Jennifer Doudna, who brought us with a co-invention of CRISPR, the gene

editing technology into the life sciences revolution. I was looking forward to

the next sort of big earth shattering things. To me, Elon Musk was doing space

travel and he was bringing us into the air of electric vehicles. I talked

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