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Welcome to The Untold Story Podcast, everybody. I'm Martha McCallum, and we have really a special edition of the podcast today.

And the Untold Story is a story that you don't know, but that Jonathan Morris and I know really well and

it's the journey that we took together in June, end of May, beginning of June, to the Holy Land.

And it was the first time that I had ever done a pilgrimage to the Holy Land. And it was Jonathan's

third or fourth third trip there. The first two times you went as a priest I did this time

you went with your mother-in-law and your wife and one baby at home and one on the way so wow

that was a very different experience for you I'm sure so anyway I welcome it's always great to

have my friend Jonathan

Morris with us. You know, just in case you don't know, Jonathan is an executive coach now. He

works with families and corporations and businesses to sort of help them navigate succession issues

and leadership issues and all sorts of, you know, because I think what people don't realize

is that priests are really

advisors and they understand human dynamics and ups and downs in people's lives and how to kind of

get them through that. So it's a terrific preparation for that. He's a New York Times best-selling author,

and just an incredibly accomplished person with a deep background in theology and faith, obviously, and history.

So, Jonathan, welcome.

Thank you, Martha.

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