Waco (Prelude: Interview with Jeff Guinn)

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🗓️ 30 January 2023

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

"There are no heroes or villains in this story, but neither are there saints or martyrs."

Today's episode features an interview with author Jeff Guinn, author of the new book "Waco: David Koresh, the Branch Davidians, and a Legacy of Rage." In it, we chat about Jeff's work writing the book, as well as details about the Branch Davidians, David Koresh, and more.

Please make sure to check out Jeff's book wherever you can, or learn more at Simon & Shuster:

https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Waco/Jeff-Guinn/9781982186104

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0:00.0	Hey everyone, it's Michael. Today I'm here to present an interview I recently conducted with
0:04.7	author Jeff Gwynn, who you may know from his prior true crime adjacent books, Manson, the life
0:10.3	and times of Charles Manson, as well as the road to Jonestown, Jim Jones and People's Temple.
0:15.8	In this episode, we're going to chat a little bit about Jeff's new book, Waco, David Kuresh,
0:20.8	The Branch Dividians, and The Legacy of Rage. Jeff and I get into the specifics about the book
0:25.8	throughout the interview. And as someone who did not know a ton about the finer workings of the
0:30.6	Waco story beforehand, I can promise that it is excellent. I would highly encourage each of you
0:35.6	trying to find a copy at your local bookstore or library. So before we get started, I just wanted
0:41.9	to congratulate you on such a great book. I actually just finished it last night. I just got
0:46.0	it this past week and I'd like sped my way through it. It is such a great book. Yeah, I've never
0:52.6	really done like a deep dive into the Branch Dividian or the Waco story beforehand. Pretty much
0:58.8	everything I've seen has been from pop culture and I'm sure you're familiar with the miniseries
1:05.7	that came out a couple of years ago. So my knowledge of it was pretty much limited to that.
1:12.2	And I just wanted to really commend you on how you managed to chart the evolution of that
1:19.3	compound, how it started with the original followers that went to Waco in the early 20th century.
1:25.7	Thank you. That was something I really thought was important. How can we understand what
1:30.5	the Branch Dividians did in 1993 if we didn't know how they had evolved?
1:35.5	Yeah, definitely. It was something that I think just brought a lot more context to what happened.
1:42.5	And I was particularly drawn to the story of the Rodin family.
1:47.4	Which yeah, is one that I had never really heard of before, but I feel like that could almost be an
1:52.4	entire, you know, like a mini series of its own. Would you mind going into how you started researching
1:57.1	that? We can't understand what David Kuresh did and what the Branch Dividians did under Kuresh's
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