I'm sitting here with Colin Call, Dr Colin, the National Security Advisor to Vice President

Biden and thanks for joining us.

We're going to talk about the Iran deal.

Colin, want you to tell us a bit about just short synopsis of your career

because Warren the Rock's readers in particular are interested in sort of scholar

practitioner model, and I think in many ways represent that.

Yeah, I mean I think of myself a little bit as an embedded nerd.

I'm a political science PhD.

I got my doctorate from Columbia University and Political Science, focused on

international relations, taught at the University of Minnesota.

I'm on leave as we speak from Georgetown University or I teach in a school of

Foreign Service. I've also worked in the think tank world for the Center for

a new American Security. But I've done a number of stints in government. In

2005 and 2006 I was a Council on Foreign Relations fellow at the Pentagon working on Stability Operations, did some work on Iraq in that time period too.

Then in the beginning of the Obama administration from February 2009 through the end of 2011, I served again at the Pentagon as the Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for the Middle East, where my portfolio basically included the 14 countries that span from Egypt up through Israel and the

Levant, Iraq, Iran, down the Gulf and Arabian Peninsula to Yemen.

So I used to joke, I didn't have to do Libya or Afghanistan. I just did the easy countries

sandwiched in between.

And as soon as you left it went the other way.

Yeah, well, you know, it's never a dull part of the world, that's for sure. So I re-entered the academic world in

in December of 2011, went back to Georgetown for a number of years and then had the

opportunity to come work for the vice president

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