On a scale of 1 to 10, how strongly do you think we responded to 2016?

Zero.

Oh, that's, I didn't even have it on the scale.

It's not on the scale.

It's not on the scale.

We're not prepared at all for 2020.

The way Russia had attacked us was using truths, hath truths and lies as sort of like information cruise missiles.

And the air that they glide on is the internet.

The explosive payload is the internet. The explosive payload is the lie that's embedded in there. And the

problem is, unlike a regular cruise missile where the payload hits and explodes, this is

more like spreading a virus.

Right, it's like a rumor or a lie and once it's out.

Even if you say it was a lie or a rumor, I can't.

But it's more insidious than just a rumor or a lie.

What was hacked in 2016 wasn't the Democratic National

Committee. It was the mindset of the American voter and the way they hacked it

was to enter it, pour in misinformation, allow you and your loved ones to spread the virus, and now completely infected, you refuse to believe that anything is wrong with you.

Well that's bleak and scary.

I'm good at that.

Election Talk can feel exhausting, hacking and meddling and disinformation,

but we have to talk about it because we got hacked in 2016,

hard, not just our voter databases and not just

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