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Volatility: The Tail That Wags the Dog

Real Vision: Finance & Investing

Real Vision

Investing, Business News, News, Business

4.11.1K Ratings

🗓️ 13 March 2022

⏱️ 7 minutes

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Volatility matters — especially to Jason Buck, who runs his own volatility fund with the primary objective of building diverse portfolios that are capable of thriving in any financial forecast. Join Buck as he speaks with Anthony Scaramucci, Alex Lennard, Cem Karsan, Noel Smith and Scott Army about harnessing volatility for desired outcomes. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome aboard this Air France podcast message. Air France and its crew invite you to discover

0:09.4

its business class cabin, where you can enjoy a full flatbed. For even more comfort, an

0:16.0

ultra soft duvet and pillow are at your disposal. Air France wishes you a pleasant podcast.

0:23.4

On today's episode of The Real Vision Daily Briefing, we're going to hear a highlight

0:34.2

from a real visionary's episode with Jason Buck discussing why harnessing volatility is

0:39.4

crucial to achieving desired outcomes. Enjoy.

0:44.6

On this theme, I kind of had the idea of a general ball theme. I mean, everybody knows

0:51.3

I come from the ball space, but like trying to think of a ball in maybe a more broader sense.

0:56.7

And that's what kind of thematically has a through line with all the guests in this part

1:00.1

of the series. So if we think about, you know, Alex Lennard from Ruffer, Ruffer is known

1:05.1

as 50 cent in our world. You know, they were buying these out of the money call options

1:08.7

on VIX for 50 cent. Everybody knew him as 50 cent, but it finally came to light in 2020

1:13.9

that it was actually Ruffer. So this is obviously a very direct volatility play, but it's really

1:18.4

interesting to think about how Ruffer running over $30 billion in all weather strategies,

1:23.7

how they use volatility to kind of hedge other parts of their book or how they systematically

1:28.0

think about how the global, you know, landscape prevails and how they hedge out those different

1:32.4

parts of their book.

1:33.4

One of the ways that we think about getting protection into our portfolios is asking

1:39.0

ourselves, where is the mania in financial markets? And once you identify that mania,

1:46.3

there are two things you can do. First, first and probably most importantly is avoid it.

1:50.7

So owning no.com stocks prior to the TMT blab, owning no leverage financials prior to the GFC,

1:59.0

but then also trying to get the other side of it. So if the mania breaks, where is capital

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