Welcome to the Thinking Fellows podcast.

You might notice that I am not Caleb Keith.

My name is in fact Dr. John Hoham.

I've been informed that I'm supposed to use the title even though I am against using it for myself.

We thank you for listening to The Thinking Fellows, which is of course part of the 1517 podcast network of shows, which means that you should go to 1517.org slash podcasts and check out all of the resources that we have there.

But that's not all. 1517 is not only a podcast network. It is also a content creation center for pretty much whatever you want,

which means that you should check out all of the other things that we have there for you,

like blog posts and conferences and academy courses, and most of it, except for the conferences,

is all for free.

So go over to 1517.org and check out everything we have there for you.

Okay, so I'm not Caleb.

I'm not the usual host, but I do know a little bit about what Thinking Fellows is supposed

to look like, which means we're going to have a freewheeling discussion.

And today, we're going to be talking about the dreaded subject among Lutherans,

known as virtue ethics.

Don't you wish it were dreaded?

It is not dreaded.

Well, I think it was dreaded in our circles.

I just want to start out by saying that, I mean, so far, John is a better host and Caleb.

And I think that we might have a secret conversation after this to discuss a trade.

I do.

Yeah.

...