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Virginia 'Ginger' Freeman Part 2

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AbJack Entertainment

Society & Culture, True Crime

4.8871 Ratings

🗓️ 21 February 2022

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

Episode 28 Virginia 'Ginger' Freeman Part 2 of 2

In part 2, we wrap up the case of Virginia 'Ginger' Freeman, and are joined by special guest, CeCe Moore from Parabon who did the genealogy work in this case.

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0:00.0

Sheriff Kirk held a press conference announcing the breakthrough in the Freeman case.

0:04.4

He announced that authorities were almost certain that James Otto Earhart had killed Ginger.

0:09.1

He explained the forensic genealogy process and how it zeroed in on Earhart.

0:13.8

But as listeners know by now, a name in a forensic genealogy report is not enough to close a case.

0:19.8

But the BCSO was ecstatic when they got

0:22.2

Earhart's name because it was a name they knew. James Otto Earhart had been convicted in May

0:28.2

1987 for the murder of nine-year-old Candy Curtland. The state of Texas executed Earhart on August 11, 1999.

0:36.8

But no DNA sample had ever been collected or analyzed from

0:40.5

Earhart. He had refused to give a DNA sample in the entire 11-year period he spent on death row. So,

0:47.3

shockingly, his DNA was not in CODIS. That era, the mid-1980s to mid-90s, preceded the statutes requiring convicted violent felons to submit DNA.

0:57.9

Now, it can be taken by force if necessary. But back then, if the guys said no, they had to leave it be.

1:04.6

It's mind-boggling to me that a child murderer could refuse to submit a DNA sample as recently as the mid-90s, but that was the

1:12.1

case in many states. So anyway, Earhart was dead and they didn't have his DNA for comparison to

1:18.0

any unknown samples in any case. In early 2017, having been at work on the case for months

1:24.2

without making much progress, Texas Ranger Josh Ray, working with BCSO investigator

1:29.3

Kenny Elliott, started making a list of previously uninvestigated potential suspects in the Freeman case.

1:36.3

This was literally a kitchen sink list. Every bad guy in the state who had not ever been looked at was on it.

1:43.3

And Earhart made their list after Sheriff

1:45.4

Kirk suggested he be on it because he had lived in Brian at the time of Ginger's murder, he was a known

1:51.3

killer, and younger photos of him resembled the snapshot image. Committed to a thorough investigation

1:57.5

of the names on the list. In April 2017, Ranger Ray and investigator

2:02.6

Elliot tracked down Earhart's still-living son in Nagadocious and asked him for a DNA sample.

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