From the New York Times, this is the interview. I'm David Marcasey.

One of the great things about my job is that I get to talk with people whose work I love.

But as much as I love that, the even greater thing about my job is when those people and what they want to talk about surprise me.

It doesn't happen often.

It did happen with Vince Vaughn.

The Vince Vaughn in my head is the charismatic Guy's Guy

from all those raunchy comedies of the early 2000s old

school dodgeball wedding crashers and of course we can't forget swingers I'd argue there's a whole

generation of men who basically tried to steal Vaughn's Neo Rat Pack vibe from that movie.

Since those films, really after the R-rated comedies that Vaughn made his name with kind of lost their cultural mojo,

he's turned his focus more to dramatic work, like the second season of

True Detective and his more recent performances in the brutal crime films of

director S Craig Zoller. And as good as Vaughn was with that kind of material, I just never connected those moody antiheroes

to the guy playing them.

So ahead of our interview, I made what is perhaps the common journalist mistake of expecting to talk with the guy from those

comedies, the sarcastic quick-witted, basically light-hearted Finns von.

And that's also partly because his newest role as a wise-ass former detective in the Apple TV Plus series Bad Monkey felt to me like an intentional update of his comedy persona.

But what I was expecting from Vaughn wasn't what I got. Instead, I got something more challenging and more earnest.

Which is to say, I got a surprise. Here's my conversation with Vince Vaughn. I want to ask you about Bad Monkey. So this to my mind would fit like within the

R-rated comedy kind of world and my understanding is that

Hollywood doesn't really know what to do with R-rated comedies anymore.

Why do you think that they've become harder for Hollywood to crack with audiences.

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