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The Good Fight

Vinay Prasad on What Went Wrong With COVID

The Good Fight

Yascha Mounk

News

4.6907 Ratings

🗓️ 13 April 2024

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

Yascha Mounk and Vinay Prasad assess the strengths and weaknesses of America’s public health response. Vinay Prasad MD, MPH is a hematologist-oncologist and Professor in the Department of Epidemiology and Biostatistics at the University of California San Francisco. In this week’s episode, Yascha Mounk and Vinay Prasad discuss the impact and efficacy of mask mandates and lockdowns; how the stifling of dissenting views among doctors and scientists harmed decision-making; and how we can improve our readiness for the next pandemic. This transcript has been condensed and lightly edited for clarity. Please do listen and spread the word about The Good Fight. If you have not yet signed up for our podcast, please do so now by following this link on your phone. Email: [email protected] Website: http://www.persuasion.community Podcast production by Jack Shields, and Brendan Ruberry Connect with us! Spotify | Apple | Google Twitter: @Yascha_Mounk & @joinpersuasion Youtube: Yascha Mounk LinkedIn: Persuasion Community Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Jeff Flyer and I wrote some articles critical of this early in the pandemic saying that we need to listen to scientists or different points of view and we need to think about all the negative consequences of lockdown.

0:09.0

We had data from China very early on that it essentially had no lethality in young people.

0:13.6

I mean, there is a rate of death in people

0:15.6

under the age of 18, but it is so fleetingly low,

0:19.1

it makes no sense to restrict their movements

0:21.4

and restrict their school given the value of school.

0:23.3

But the bigger point is that it seems like Monday morning quarterback because the people who

0:27.4

set the policy squelched all attempts at any dissenting opinion and did not allow the public

0:32.3

to hear the points of view of people who

0:33.9

disagreed at the time.

0:36.1

And now the good fight with Yasha Monk. About five years ago I read the free body problem, the wonderful Chinese science

0:51.3

fiction novel by Kaisian Liu. And like many other people I have been watching the Netflix adaptation over the course of the last weeks I have one episode to go.

1:03.0

The pivotal moment of the early part of the series,

1:06.7

and I promise that this is not much of a spoiler,

1:10.4

comes when Wenje-Yee is working at a Chinese research observatory, which is scanning the skies from messages from extraterrestrial life and even though she is

1:27.5

warned not to respond in a message they do in fact intercept from outer space from something I'm a pacifist in this world

1:35.3

You're lucky that I am the first to receive your message. I'm warning you do not answer if you respond we will come your world will be conquered do not answer

1:43.0

Wenger responds that the aliens should come.

1:48.0

We cannot save ourselves.

1:50.0

I will help you conquer this world.

1:54.0

This is of course a science fiction dramatization,

1:58.0

which is much unlike anything that would happen in reality.

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