So I went and I woke him up. He was out of a dead fucking sleep. I wake him up to go and commit credit card fraud with me.

We drive from Coral Springs to West Palm Beach, Florida. We go to Walmart. We walk in. We go all the way to the back. We get the laptop. We get up to the counter. Everything's fine. We get the guy the card.

He swipes the card. He looks at it. He goes. He picks up the phone. He says, we've got a code red back in electronics.

But, you know, success comes, not when we want it, you know, when it's earned.

Right.

And it's a good way to look at it.

But, yeah, for people who haven't seen your content before, you know, you were one of the biggest card sellers, fraudulent card sellers in America at one time. You've had a hell

of a life, though. I think the way that you tell your story and are able to kind of take it from

the beginning, which I want you to do today, is pretty powerful because, you know, I obviously talk with a lot of different types of people in here. I'm curious about everyone's walk of life, how they ended up where they are. But I do love hearing about people who had wildly different environments and experiences than I was used to and how some ways where that could have gone wrong and what made it go wrong and someone like you was nice enough to be extremely open about that. So for the people that haven't heard you, where did you grow up and where everything start for you? Sure. I was actually born in Mount Clemens, Michigan. It's just a small manufacturing city outside of about 30 minutes

north of Detroit. And I was born there. I lived there to about in 1992. And then my mother moved

myself and my little brother down to Homestead, Florida. Now, mind you, I don't have any family

in Florida. We had no ties in Florida. My mother, for whatever reason, whether I don't remember it was a job opportunity, or maybe she just wanted to, maybe just change our environment, whatever she was going through at that time, moved us to South Florida. And pretty much grew up in South Florida, my entire life i was going to say you look like

florida man like when i picture florida i'm like john boziak that's him i'm a florida cracker bro

i'm a florida cracker through and through i just i spent pretty much my whole entire life there

now my entire my almost my entire family lives in michigan my dad my grandparents all my cousins

my brothers my little, my brothers,

my little brother, my older brother, everybody's in Michigan. So just you and your mom went

down there? Just me and my mom and my little brother went to Florida. And that was in like

1992, um, relatively uneventful from 1992 to about 1996. I was a youth. I had a relatively normal childhood.

I remember, you know, I just remember playing a lot, riding bikes in the neighborhood, you know, early 90s shit that all the kids did back then.

You know, there was, um, there was no video games.

I think there was like regular Nintendo and, you know, so it wasn't like you know what it is today

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