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He asked us to do a site survey. Can you kind of go over all the locations, this location, and all the locations we have and see where our guys are and give us your assessment.

So we start doing that. And they were putting snipers up in a clock tower. It's like you've been watching saving Private Ryan too much. You know, like you, it's not a good place to put a sniper. Contrary to popular belief, you don't put snipers in clock towers, right? Why is that? Because they're easy to pick off up there? Yeah, you're stuck up there, right? You takes care over then i mean you've seen that

and saving private right i mean i don't know why everybody thinks that's a thing that guy actually

he was a cool character in that movie but he got blown away by a tank because he's up in a bell tower

or whatever in that last podcast we just did about israel i forgot to give a shout out to our boy, mutual friend, Sean Ryan.

It did two awesome episodes with you.

So everyone, make sure you go check them out.

I'll put those links in the description as well.

But you had done one like three, four weeks into the Ukraine conflict in 2022, right after you got back. So you were on the ground there, like immediately, four weeks into the Ukraine conflict in 2022 right after you got back. So you were on the

ground there like immediately, huh? Yeah, we went. The whole reason it happened and obviously this

is on Sean's show, that first podcast I did, was a friend of mine is from Ukraine. He's part of my Jiu-Jitsu Academy. And the whole build-up

leading up to the thing, he was worried and, you know, this built up for a little while

before. And I just would check in with him. And the kind of the day that everything kicked

off, I had said to him, check them with him again, but I had said to him checked in with him again but i

had said to him hey let's go shooting let's go to the range and and get some training in he he's

you know from ukraine but he's a new he was a new american was getting into his concealed carry

and all this kind of stuff i was teaching him how to shoot a little bit and um so we went to the range kind of burned some hours on a saturday get his phone his head out of the phone off the tv that kind of thing and you know it's february in chicago so it's freezing and we're standing out in the parking lot and he goes i think i'm just going to go back to see my family he He hadn't been back in 11 years or whatever, and he wanted to go back.

And I just, you know, I said, look, it was right then and there. I didn't even think twice about it. I just said, you can't go back. You have no experience. You don't know what you're doing. You don't know what the situation is. I said, let me see if I can get somebody, some people, and help get you back there and bring

you back here safely. And I had no plan. I had no plan. We weren't the Overwatch Foundation,

so I didn't have even kind of like an apparatus or an infrastructure to do this.

What work had you done in the context of what was pre-overwatch, but like some of that work?

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